![]() “It’s embarrassing,” he replies, shaking his head. What does Phillips make of the whole Trump phenomenon? ![]() I mean, that’s what Donald Trump is running on, even though he couldn’t be more part of the system.” “Whether it’s The Big Short or Money Monster, or even this movie, people are making films about that idea. Also, there is a thing now, at least in the States, where people are starting to realise that the system is rigged. ![]() I do think that as we get more superhero movies and sequels, there is a certain audience who crave something real. Russell, for example, makes great truth-is-stranger-than-fiction movies. Even the movies that I love in real life, they often have that element. “I had a company back then called Stranger Than Fiction, and it’s always been something that’s attracted me. “Well, I actually started my career making documentaries,” notes Phillips. When you consider that some of the finest films of 2016 have been documentaries, and that American Crime Story – based on the OJ Simpson case – has been the best TV show of the year, stories about real life events have definitely been in the ascendant of late. War Dogs was adapted from a Rolling Stone article by journalist Guy Lawson, which Phillips read whilst on a plane to Bangkok to film The Hangover Part III. It wasn’t so much about fascination with guns.” “They think they’re gangsters, that it’s their movie and so on. “All the kids I knew who grew up in Miami have this weird thing about the film,” he adds. It was filmed in Miami, and not a lot of films were, so Scarface was their movie, it belonged to them. In particular, if you know anyone who grew up in Miami, which I do, it’s a very interesting movie. In terms of Efraim’s fascination with Scarface, that’s different – every kid in the world is fascinated with Scarface. Efraim took to it more than David, who doesn’t touch a gun in the movie. “I don’t think they had an affinity with guns. “These guys could have been selling potato chips to the government,” says the friendly and hugely engaging Phillips, between drags on an e-cigarette, in his room at Claridges in London. While the film does manage to convey some of the reasons behind America’s dysfunctional relationship with guns – in particular thanks to Diveroli’s Scarface fixation – the director maintains that it isn’t a comment on the hot topic of weapons control in the US. War Dogs, the latest film from Hangover trilogy director Todd Phillips, tells the extraordinary true story of Efraim Diveroli and David Packouz (played by, respectively, Jonah Hill and Miles Teller), two friends from Miami who managed to become major international arms dealers, courtesy of public contract auctions on the Pentagon website.
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